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I denne post skriver Baron Bodissey ikke mindst om Gullestrupsagen. Jeg mindede selv om svenske selvtægtsmord, da jeg skrev om det i forgårs. Tilliden til svensk justits er allerede et godt stykke nede af slisken, svenskere har i vidt omfang bevæbnet sig i den udstrækning, de ikke allerede er en af de 2 mio lovlige våbenejere. Knive, pebersprays, baseballbats, hvad som helst. Gamle damer har bats ved sengen, nydelige ældre akademikere, har en kniv i lommen, når de besøger Malmø. Jeg taler om mennesker, jeg kender, det er ikke noget svenske medier praler med. Tilliden til retsstaten er i frit fald.

Det er ikke noget politikere og retsvæsen skal tage sig let. Abdikerer retsstaten fra den respekt og tillid den har nydt som en naturlig ting, er der ingen der siger, den kommer tilbage igen. Slipper I grebet, tager andre kræfter over. En domstol skal selvfølgelig ikke følge folkestemninger, men den skal heller ikke være i alvorlig utakt med folks retsfølelse. Man skal ikke pjatte med alvorlige ting, og dommen over Ahmed Omar Mohammed leger med farlige, principielle kræfter i selve statens fundament, og som GoV skriver om dommen: “this is legal but it is not just.”

Hvis jeg var pårørende til et af hans ofre, hvad jeg til held for alle ikke er, ville jeg stå parat med en velkomst, når Ahmed Omar Mohammed slippes ud om få år, som ville få ham til at ønske, han var blevet udvist til Somalia, og jeg ville selvfølgelig tage min straf. Det kan ikke være i nogens interesse, der står meget vigtigere ting på spil end Ahmed Omar Mohammeds eventuelle integrationsmuligheder. Det handler om retsstatens vigtigste kapital: borgernes tillid til den.

Udvis voldtægtsmanden Ahmed Omar Mohamed !

Ahmed kan allerede komme ud efter 2,5 år efter nye regler, der træder i kraft 1. juli 2013. Med en dom på 6 år, kan han blive prøveløsladt efter 3 år, hvis bare han har et job. Han kan endda få fodlænke et halvt år før prøven. Det betyder, at han kan blive prøveløsladt november 2014. Hvordan skal en så mild straf være en advarsel til andre potentielle voldtægtsmænd? Hvorfor skal vi som samfund tage hensyn til en gerningsmand, der ikke er dansk statsborger og har begået så grusomme gerninger med uoprettelige konsekvenser til følge? Skriv under, navn kan være usynligt for andre.


There are three important characteristics of a properly-functioning state:

1. It holds a monopoly on violence within its borders; that is, it protects its citizens from both external invasion and internal criminal violence.
2. It administers justice fairly and effectively among all citizens, enforcing the Common Law without favoritism or dereliction.
3. Its justice must be seen to be done.

The third characteristic is crucial. Writers on political economy have long recognized that if a state is to retain its legitimacy, justice must be seen to be done.

We live in a time when laws have proliferated extensively, so that virtually every citizen breaks at least one law every day, mostly without realizing it. Under these circumstances, it is important to remember the distinction between what is legal and what is just.

When a man coasts through a stop sign at an empty intersection, where he can see clearly that there is no traffic for a mile in all directions, and receives a traffic ticket as a result, this is legal but it is not just.

When a householder in Britain is fined £200 for improper use of a wheelie bin, this is legal but it is not just.

When Tommy Robinson is imprisoned in solitary confinement for several months for using someone else’s passport to enter the United States, this is legal but it is not just.

When an immigrant to Denmark who rapes a child and attempts to rape two others is sentenced to only six years in a comfortable Danish prison (of which he will serve three), and will not be deported after serving his sentence, this is legal but it is not just.

I will focus on this last example, because this particular crime is so monstrous and the outcome so egregiously unjust. The rape of a small child is an abomination, and until a century or so ago would generally have been punished with execution throughout the West. This is because death was widely viewed as a just reprisal for the crime: the child’s life, even if he or she survives the rape, has been in many ways functionally destroyed, as has that of the parents. When the rapist is executed, justice is seen to be done.

In the case of the Gullestrup child rape, let’s imagine a different outcome. Suppose the perpetrator, instead of being apprehended and arrested, had been caught in the act by a posse of local Danish men, including the father of the little girl. Let’s further imagine that after being roughly handled by the crowd, he was summarily judged by the father and a group of local notables, and then immediately hanged from the nearest tree tall and strong enough to bear his weight at the end of a rope.

This would have been grossly illegal, but in the eyes of the local community, justice would be seen to have been done.

In contrast, take a look at what actually happened. Peaceful, law-abiding Danes allowed the police to do their job. The man was arrested without being hurt. He was kept safe from harm under humane conditions, provided legal counsel (presumably at taxpayers’ expense), granted a trial with all the protections and legal procedures designed to ensure that his rights were not violated, and found guilty. The penalty prescribed by law was imposed upon him, and he was sentenced to six years in prison, of which he will likely serve three, and be deported upon release. After his lawyer appealed the sentence to a higher court, the deportation order was overturned.

In three years this young monster will be free to walk the streets of Denmark, including the village of Gullestrup. While on the sidewalk there he may pass his victim — who will not even have attained her majority at that point — and leer at her without fear of judicial reprisal.

This is all legal, but it is not just. And justice is not seen to have been done.

I would wager that more than 90% of the Danish populace — the remainder being socialist politicians, progressive theologians, academics, and media people — are outraged by this situation, and do not consider that justice has been done.

If repeated often enough, cases such as this one are poisonous to the polity at large. The state loses all legitimacy in the eyes of the people. Eventually, after they experience one too many instances of Law without Justice, some sort of civil insurrection against the established order is all but inevitable.

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

The situation described above is not confined to Denmark. It is, for example, far worse in Britain, where Muslim gangs that keep captive white girls — children — as sex slaves have operated with impunity for more than a decade. Rapists are often let off without a prison sentence by British courts. You don’t need The Daily Mail to tell you that justice is not seen to be done.

This process can continue for only so much longer. It’s like a large open room that is gradually filling up with invisible hydrogen gas. Everything looks normal, and activities continue as usual, until at some point a match is lit or a spark struck from a scrap of metal. Then, in the blink of an eye, everything changes.

It’s hard to say what the match or the spark will be in Denmark, Britain, or any other Western state. It could begin with a bout of mob violence after a particularly abominable crime goes unpunished. It could occur when the currency inflates, after which the power of the repressive state to coerce the conformity of its citizens will be severely reduced. Or it could be some other incident that can hardly be imagined now.

But the spark will someday be struck. And the building will go up.

That will be followed by a period of violence, horror, and lawlessness of indefinite duration. Afterwards the remnants of European civilization — and by that I mean white people of European descent, Jews, and the descendants of those from other cultures who have assimilated fully to their country and totally share its values — will gradually reform into proper, functioning states that protect their citizens and administer justice in the traditional way.

How will such a society treat the equivalent of the Gullestrup child-rapist?

I picture a process that would run something like this:

After suffering a black eye and a broken nose at the hands of the enraged citizens who apprehend him, the local constable intervenes and locks the rapist up out of harm’s way. The following morning he is arraigned before a magistrate, assigned legal counsel, and charged with the crime. If this occurs within the remnants of the Anglosphere, a jury is rapidly empanelled. The following day the trial is held. Witnesses give evidence, and the accused is allowed to plead his side of the case and call his own witnesses. Before the end of the day the guilty verdict is handed down by the judge (or jury), and the accused is sentenced to be hanged by the neck until he is dead. The morning after that (if it is not Sunday), he is led, blindfolded and sedated, to the platform, where he receives last rites from a minister of his faith. Then the trapdoor drops from under him as the assembled community watches.

Those observing this event see that justice has been done. The little girl whose life has been ruined will in future gain what little solace she may from knowing that the monster who did such horrible things to her has received his just reward. The parents of the little girl will continue in outrage and sorrow, but they are able to see that justice has been promptly served. The community at large will affirm that justice is seen to be done.

The above description probably offends most modern Westerners, who would view it as a barbaric atavism, a reversion to cultural practices that we are supposed to have evolved beyond.

Yet many people will agree that this is true justice. It’s hard to determine how many, because we are all aware of what we are supposed to feel and think about such matters, and we all know the potential consequences for expressing an incorrect opinion. In my part of the world, at least, I would expect the vast majority of citizens would agree in such circumstances that justice had been done.

This is because justice in this form was the norm throughout the West until four or five generations ago, and had been for centuries, since the rule of law was first established in the nations of Europe. Yes, it’s true that in those days vigilante justice, official malfeasance, corruption, and other flaws marred the smooth flow of justice. But what I described above was the rough norm in the European diaspora up until the beginning of the 20th century.

That’s when everything changed. The science of penology was invented, prisons were transformed in penitentiaries and reformatories, and rehabilitation became the order of the day. The rights of accused criminals were extended and elaborated by judicial fiat, penalties were reduced, and many acknowledged criminals escaped scot-free, quite legally.

And justice was not seen to be done.

This is an anomalous situation. It is aberrant and abhorrent to the vast majority of citizens. Therefore it cannot sustain itself much longer.

As the sage Lao Tzu said two and half millennia ago:

This is not the way of Tao.
Whatever is contrary to Tao will not last long.

Justice must be seen to be done.

BT: Desirée Klein på 19 år blev i 2011 truet med en kniv, tvunget til oralsex og forsøgt voldtaget af den 18-årige Ahmed Omar Mohamed

Desireé skal videre med sit liv: Vil møde sin voldtægtsmand igen

Da Desireé blev overfaldet, var hun en velfungerende og livsglad pige, der gik i 10. klasse. Efter tragedien har hun været sygemeldt, og har ikke været i stand til at gennemføre hverken studier eller uddannelse. Hun kan hverken koncentrere sig eller holde fokus.

Hun får uventede tude- og rysteanfald, og synker ofte ned i dyb depression. Hun er ikke længere i stand til selv at tage en bus ind til byen. Alt sammen på grund af en voldtægtsforbryder, der ødelagde hendes liv på mindre end en time.

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Allan Hansen
8 years ago

Hej Steen er du til Gal Costa?

– Quem Te viu, quem Te Vé.


Allan Hansen
8 years ago
8 years ago

Det afgørende næste gang er de nødvendige mandattal,
som kræves til folkeafstemninger.
Det trænger vi alvorligt til at få rigtig mange af.


8 years ago

Ny YouGov-meningsmåling (17/ 6)


S: 16.0 % (!)
DF: 17.7 %
SF: 3.1 % (!)
R: 7.9 %
V: 30.4 %
K: 5.5 % (!)
LA: 5.5 %
EL: 13.1 % ( ??? 😀 )

Blokkene: 40.1 % ( S, R, SF, EL ) vs. 59.9 % (!!!) ( V, DF, K, LA )

Nu kan S & R altså ikke engang TILSAMMEN (23.9) slæbe sig op på det niveau (24.8),
som S alene fik ved det seneste folketingsvalg ( 34.3 % tilsammen ).

Odd S.
Odd S.
8 years ago
Reply to  Bjovulf

Og vi kan få (blåt) flertal UDEN RV-light (=LA)!

8 years ago
Reply to  Odd S.

Nå, ja 😉

Men spørgsmålet er jo nok, om det ikke snarere på mange punkter er K, der er RV-light?
Der er sgu ikke meget national, konservativ og kulturel bevidsthed tilbage i K nufortiden 😉

Hvilket højst sandsynligt er hovedårsagen til, at de pt. ligger nede på sølle 4 – 5 % –
nærmest konstant.

Morani ya Simba
Morani ya Simba
8 years ago

Den sag bør naturligvis prøves ved Højesteret.

Jeg synes de tre karakteristika for en fungerende stat er interessant. Den giver mening i mine øjne. Måske jeg ville tilføje et punkt om at magt bør udgå, og med mellemrum udtrykkes, fra folket. Men ellers ikke dårlig viderebygning på Max Weber’s definition af staten som den der monopoliserer legitim fysisk magtanvendelse. Er det din, Steen?

8 years ago

Vi har to muligheder.
Enten bevæbner den enkelte sig, uanset omkostningerne.
Eller også danner vi en modstandsbevægelse, der
foretager sig det, som myndighederne ikke tør og skal.


Thomas Bolding Hansen
8 years ago

Jeg kunne acceptere den korte straf, hvis man var 100 % sikker på, at han aldrig gør noget lignende igen. Men han gør angiveligt noget forfærdeligt igen, måske slår han endda ihjel for at undgå vidner. Så han skal ud af landet, eller alternativt (hvis han var en dansk statsborger) have en forvaringsdom på ubestemt tid.

8 years ago

Og hvorfor syntes du så ikke at kriminelle udlændinge kan fratages dansk statsborgerskab?

Som Ole Hasselbalch engang skrev:

” Ja, der findes endog en konvention, som tillader inddragelse af statsborgerskabet, når vitale statshensyn tilsiger det. Det drejer sig om FN-konvention af 30/8 1960 – som Danmark i øvrigt vistnok af den grund nægtede at tilslutte sig.

Der er kort sagt intet, som hindrer, at Folketinget genskaber anstændige forhold i Danmark.”

Polka Charlie
Polka Charlie
8 years ago

Hvis man tog ind på Københavns Universitet og overhørte en forlæsning eller fulgte en manuduktion i strafferet, civilproces, udlændingeret, forfatningsret, folkeret, ja faktisk hvad som helst – så ville man forstå hvorfor retsvæsen, ministerier osv. opfører sig som syge hunde. Den kulturmarxistiske indoktrinering lever i bedste velgående der – og derfra spreder den sig og inficerer hele vores samfund. Skal der ske noget skal man nok starte med at kigge undervisere, forskere, professore mv. lidt i kortne. Det er desværre ikke et rent dansk problem, det respekterede Columbia University ledes af røde-terrorister, mordere og straffefanger – Harvard og Chicago er… Read more »

8 years ago
Reply to  Polka Charlie

Man kan nævne Frederik Harhoff, Jens Elo Rytte, Hanne Petersen og Ruth Nielsen her. Og så kan man læse hvad de selv har skrevet i Retfærd. Niveauet er gymnasie fristile. For Ruth Nielsens vedkommende, at juraen skal bruges til at indfører socialisme/et progressivt samfund, sådan cirka, ved at anvende juraen som kampmiddel. Hanne Petersen og Ruth Nielsen er for tiden medlemmer af Ligebehandlingsnævnet, og det kan så bare konstateres at juraen bliver brugt som kampmiddel. I øvrigt er det til at brække sig over, at skriverier i en politisk pamflet som Retfærd, kan meritere til noget som helst, sidst af… Read more »

8 years ago
Reply to  Anonymous

Til Anonymous,
Jens Elo Rytter, foran universitet, vor frue plads , tror jeg det hedder.
Der har været debat om, at f.eks tyrkiske familier får over 200.000 kr. om året.

Denne hædersmand siger følgende :”Jamen der bliver jo forlangt noget af dem .
De skal jo stå til rådighed for arbejdsmarkedet.”

Jeg fik næsten et chock , og troede at jeg havde hørt forkert.
Ikke noget at sige til, vi nok går svære tider i møde.

I gamle dage var politikerne bekymret over det, som blev kaldt “Arbejdsløshedsøer”.
Nu giver de milliader for at stå til rådighed. Til udlændinge.

Crass Børsting
Crass Børsting
8 years ago

Danmark er ved at bryde sammen. Glistrup kunne forudse udviklingen for 40 år siden. Den gennemsnitlige dansker har med en generations forsinkelse forstået, at noget er galt. Den gennemsnitlige politiker, dommer, embedsmand, DR-journalist osv. opfører sig stadig, som om alt er i rimeligt god gænge.

8 years ago

Advokaten Jeppe Jepsen ser ud til at have smidt falske lodder i skålen, hvilket dommerne så har grebet med kyshånd. Men lad os se den skrevne dom, dommerne kommer ikke uden om, direkte eller indirekte, at løfte sløret på det punkt.

Man kan advokatens hjemmeside se, at han blandt andet er medlem af bestyrelsen Skive Folkeblad. Det bliver man jo nok ikke uden at være radigalning… Om jeg huske ret.


Så man kunne jo starte en boykott via fjæsbog mod det blad. Og andre af advokatens samarbejdspartnere.

8 years ago
Reply to  Anonymous

– Bestyrelsesformand i SIK-Elite A/S og Arco Grafisk A/S
– Sidder herudover i flere bestyrelser, bl.a. Skive Folkeblad G/S
– Fast dirigent ved bl.a. Dansk Idrætsforbunds Årsmøde, Dansk Camping Unions årsmøde mv.

E-mail: jj@jeppe-jepsen.dk

TRINE HØGEDAL, Advokatfuldmægtig
– Cand. jur. fra Aarhus Universitet 2010
– Formand for JCI Skive 2013


8 years ago

Jag tycker Baron Boddisey sammanfattar rättsstatens principer och dess moralisk-filosofiska bakgrund, bättre än vad Dostojevskij klarade på 400+ sidor. Det är precis det här det handlar om. FÖRTROENDE!

Ud med ham!
Ud med ham!
8 years ago

der er en underskrifts- indsamling igang her steen

8 years ago
Reply to  Ud med ham!

Den lille piges kusine har efterladt en kommentar på underskriftsindsamlingen

Jeg er kusine til den 10 årige.
Hun er blevet lovet at hun aldrig nogensinde vil kunne støde ind på ham,
det løfte kan vi ikke holde nu..”


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