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Taliban in the presidential palace, August 2021

by Fjordman

The Western pullout from Kabul during the Taliban advance on August 16, 2021 was a chaotic and embarrassing mess. This was a global humiliation for the USA and the Western defense alliance NATO.

The Western-backed former Afghan leader, Ashraf Ghani, reportedly departed his country with so much money that it couldn’t all fit in his helicopter. He was thus forced to leave some cash at the airport.

The total costs of the war in Afghanistan between 2001 and 2021 are disputed. However, sums of up to one trillion — one thousand billion — US dollars have been mentioned as reasonably realistic estimates. What did that money achieve? Absolutely nothing. In fact, worse than nothing. The Taliban in August 2021 controlled more territory in Afghanistan than they did in August 2001. And they had better weapons, too.

The Americans and their Western allies spent tens of billions on building up Afghan security forces, including the Afghan National Army and the police force. When the USA and its allies pulled out in 2021, the Afghan army collapsed with astonishing speed. Even the Taliban seem to have been surprised by how quickly any resistance evaporated.

This means that the modern military equipment that was intended to combat the Taliban is now in the hands of the Taliban. Twenty years of fighting, costing perhaps 1,000 billion dollars and the lives of over 3,500 Western soldiers, has simply handed the country back to the Taliban, with some weaponry added as a bonus.

The fact that many Muslims in Afghanistan put up little resistance against the Taliban probably indicates that they like them and share their Islamic sharia ideals. In any case, they deserve the Taliban when they are not willing to resist them. This result could encourage more Jihadist aggression, in Afghanistan and beyond.

When the Soviet Union invaded Afghanistan in 1979, the country became a battleground in the Cold War. The USA and other nations supported various armed Muslim rebel groups in their fight against Soviet forces. After the Soviet Union withdrew in 1989, these Jihadist groups claimed victory.

The Afghan mujahideen included the embryo of what would become the Taliban, as well as foreign militant Muslims such as Osama bin Laden and the terrorist network al-Qaida. Islamic groups such as the Taliban can thus claim that the mighty forces of Allah in Afghanistan defeated two superpowers in just over three decades. This is not an entirely empty boast.

The disaster in Afghanistan was caused by the stubborn inability of Western elites to understand Islamic culture and tribal societies. They believe that other people think like us, and want to become like us. This is both extremely naïve and extremely arrogant at the same time.

Many Muslims do not think at all like we do, nor do they want to become like us. In fact, their religion specifically states that they should conquer us, rule us and eventually convert us to Islam. They have no intention of changing. They are here to change us.

The only sensible solution to this dilemma is to stay out of Muslim countries as much as possible. At most, we can undertake brief military campaigns to achieve critical military objectives, but never anything more than that. Above all, we should do whatever it takes to keep Islam and those who practice it out of our own countries.

The population of Afghanistan and other Muslim nations has continued growing rapidly over the past decades due to high birth rates. This development has been partly facilitated by Western medicine and technology. At the same time, the Muslim immigrant populations in Western Europe have also grown rapidly.

Even within the Islamic world, some countries are more brutal than others. Young men from Somalia and Afghanistan have committed many acts of gang rape, torture and murder in countries such as Germany, Belgium and Sweden. These include male Afghan asylum seekers of fighting age. Yet instead of fighting to make Afghanistan a better country, they come to us, leech off societies that they despise, and sometimes attack us.

Muslim immigration to Europe has caused countless deadly acts of terrorism and violent crime against native Europeans. Yet the ruling elites and the EU seem totally indifferent towards the suffering of the natives. At worst, they act actively hostile to the interest of native Europeans. At best, they are massively incompetent.

When the Titanic on its maiden voyage in April 1912 hit an iceberg and sank, over 1,500 people died. This has sometimes been treated as symbolic for European civilization. Two years later, Europe was plunged into the devastating European civil war that we call the First World War. Some people have compared today’s Western world to the Titanic. Yet Western Europe and the wider Western world is arguably worse than that now. When the crew of the Titanic finally spotted the iceberg, they reacted quickly and tried to steer the ship away from a collision course. It was too late, so they hit the iceberg. Nevertheless, their attempted response came within seconds of being made aware of the problem.

By comparison, the current ruling elites of the Western world have had decades to deal with the problems facing us. It is indisputable that mass immigration, especially Muslim immigration, has caused major social, economic and cultural harm. Yet despite overwhelming evidence, the captains still refuse changing course. They head straight for the iceberg, claiming that hitting it will be culturally enriching and good for the economy.

All warnings about an impending disaster are dismissed as hate speech and icebergophobia.

For a complete archive of Fjordman’s writings, see the multi-index listing in the Fjordman Files.

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Hansen
Hansen
3 months ago

Icebergophobia – den var go’. Det er en skandale, at Fjordman ikke har et vellønnet job. Hvad er Stoltenbergs årsløn? Jeg kunne sagtens forestille mig Fjordman som NATO’s generalsekretær.

Last edited 3 months ago by Hansen
Cjristian Hansen
Cjristian Hansen
3 months ago
Reply to  steen

Trump mindede mig ganske rigtigt tit om en olm tyr, der løb grassat mod alt rødt, men der er nu ikke meget bøffel-agtigt over Jo Biden, og Biden har en stor del af den amerikanske befokning bag sig. Man kan dårligt bebrejde dem, at de tabte tålmodigheden .

Når man er oppe imod en for stor overmagt, er det klogeste man kan gøre at trække sig. Det kræver mod at indse.

Cat Girl
Cat Girl
3 months ago

Du mener det vel omvendt, hvis du skal have den mindste grad af ærlighed ind i dit skriv. Hele verdens etablissement, dvs hele den nuværende socialistiske/kommunistiske/nazistiske NWO, så rødt i alt, hvad Trump gjorde?

Cat Girl
Cat Girl
3 months ago
Reply to  steen

Tucker er sammen med Alex Jones vor tids største journalister

Marina
Marina
3 months ago

Det er fristende at sige, at alt var spildt, men endnu ved vi det ikke. Måske blev der trods alt sået nogle frø. som blot skal have tid til at spire. Ting tager tid, og Vestens drømme er ikke Orientens. Afghanere, burmesere, iranere, irakker, vietnamesere osv. må selv finde deres vej, og der må være mange i Afghanistan, der også er glade for Taliban eller i det mindste foretrækker dem frem for Vestens idéer og levemåde. For dem er der jo ikke tale om en tragedie men om sejr, men det underspilles i de vestlige medier. Det virkelig tragiske for… Read more »

No name
No name
3 months ago

Politikerne tror fejlagtigt, at MSM repræsenterer befolkningen. Politikerne er magtliderlige og ønsker ikke at lette røven fra taburetten frivilligt, så de føjer sig for Woke-medierne. Selv befolkningen er bange for sige deres mening.

Jan Ulrik Friis
Jan Ulrik Friis
3 months ago

USA har nu efter sigende sikret lufthavnen i Kabul, USA har igen igen fået en mere end sindssyg plan, at nu dagligt flyve ud af Afghanistan imellem 5000 – 10000 afghaner dagligt, dårskaben kender åbenbart slet ingen grænser! Regn selv på det 10 dage bliver til: 100.000 afghaner, 100 dage bliver til: 1.000.000 afghaner sandsynligt gange med: 10 i familiesammenføring fætre – kusiner – onkler og tanter hele den papirløse klan og deres familie som kunne være hvem som helt, det er det også, jo før USA forlade lufthavnen jo bedre! Vesteuropa og USA “find themself in a hole, so… Read more »

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Poul
Poul
3 months ago

Det her har intet med emnet at gøre, men jeg syntes lige i skulle se det alligevel:

Homoseksuelle indvandrere, dresseret af “anti-racistiske” venstreorienterede til at demonstrere IMOD kritik af dem der overfalder dem fordi venstrefløjen har brug for de muslimske stemmer, til et arrangement hvor hvide ikke er velkomne, i “mangfoldighedens navn”.. https://www.bt.dk/royale/hvide-og-heteroseksuelle-ingen-adgang-til-noerrebro-pride-jeg-har-ikke-noget

Igen, jeg ved godt at det ikke er relevant ifht afghanistan, men det siger en del om den “logik” vi er oppe imod i danmark.

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Ivan Dybdal
3 months ago

Enig. Rationelt har Fjordman ret, men følelsen er påvirket af et enormt medietryk.
Mon ikke alle også – ihvertfald inderst inde – føler, at Fjordman har ret?
Men vælgernes stemmeafgivning er styret af det Fjordman kalder “Western elites”, der bruger et enormt medietryk. Men hvad er nu det, har vi et mediestyre og ikke et folkestyre? 🙂

Morten - - -
Morten - - -
3 months ago

Gud, hvor sjov! Sådan så de også ud i oldtiden 🙂

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Poul
Poul
3 months ago

Ok, når de har ret har de ret: “The Taliban spokesman got a question about freedom of speech and he said the question should be asked to US companies like Facebook who claim to promote it while still censoring”

(fra twitter opslaget ude i højre side herinde)

Selvom der naturligvis er et stykke vej fra islamister der skærer hovedet af børn til silicon valley, så kommer man ikke udenom at hykleriet i vesten ofte er absurd. Trump er forøvrigt stadig bannet på twitter, lederen af taliban er ikke…!!!

Poul
Poul
3 months ago
Reply to  Poul

Er det iøvrigt ikke terrorstøtte, hvis man leverer en platform til verdens største terrorist?

Højrefløjen (i usa i dette tilfælde, men også herhjemme) burde bruge deres tid på at lave en form for retsgruppe med midlerne til det, som angriber som en høg når der er mulighed for at hive venstrefløjens terror-sympatisører i retten, og ruinere/lukke dem ned på den måde så snart chancen er der. Men nu drømmer jeg igen..

Poul
Poul
3 months ago

The reason our leaders don’t react to that iceberg, is that they plan on it to thin out our national cultures, so they don’t meet any serious resistance when they suggest converting the european countries into EU states in a few years from now. It’s extremely simple: When the population of denmark, sweden, germany, holland, france, and so on all consist of the same mixture of different groups with no common culture, the reason for them to insist on having a country of their own is gone = Hello EU states. It’s “divide and conquer”, plain and simple. So simple… Read more »

Cat Girl
Cat Girl
3 months ago
Reply to  Poul

100%

Morten - - -
Morten - - -
3 months ago
Reply to  Poul

I happen to aggree wth your analysis – which I myself forward everywhere I can, and with some progress. Don’t blame the muslims, for they know not what they are doing. The EU-cadres – and the politicians supporting The European Project without declaring so – are the true culprits.

Nice to meet someone who understands.

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Jan Ulrik Friis
Jan Ulrik Friis
3 months ago
Reply to  Morten - - -

We the people did learn the hard way, we also like to understand, do not write us off! One day like another day, we also meight one day write a clever analysis. “Don’t blame the muslims, for they know not what they are doing.”  ??? EU also do not know what they are doing – never ever turn your back to such criminels and murderers like islam and EU deadly and rotten to there bones! Then again EU malicious to deadly evil, knows very well that this is a ethnic cleaning a full definitive destruction of ethnic europeans us the people,… Read more »

Margrethe
Margrethe
3 months ago

Det eneste .lys i mørket, i forhold til elitens skumle planer med at smadre de europæiske nationalstater, er fortilfældet i form af Rusland og Østeuropas kommunistregimer. Stalin masseimporterede russere til de Baltiske lande. Jeg antager at formålet var at lave samme udtynding og ødelægge den etniske og kulturelle sammenhængskraft. Men lykkedes det? Jeg var i Estland få år efter unionens sammenbrud, og var det noget esterne foragtede, var det landets importerede russere og deres efterkommere. Vi blev advaret om russernes tarvelige unger, “som stjal” og som vi i det hele taget gjorde klogest i at holde os langt fra…. Homo… Read more »

Morten - - -
Morten - - -
3 months ago
Reply to  Margrethe

Hvis vi skal begrænse skaderne, skal vi ud at skabe bevidsthed nu. Det er muligt, der venter os en art “katarsis” på den anden side af sorgen og tragedien. Men hvis vi ikke skal blive alt for traumatiserede, skal vi handle, og ikke passivt overlade det hele til Den Historiske Nødvendighed. Vi er trods alt historiens instrument.

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Den Nervøse
Den Nervøse
3 months ago

Fjordman har frygteligt ret, 1. Verdenskrig var enden på at fyrsterne regerede verden, og verden dengang var Europa! 2. Verdenskrig cementerede bare dette og viste at demokratierne var stærke, men sårbare! Vietnam og nu Afganistan viser sig, at være enden på den vestlige verdens dominans i Verden! Vi er udfordret af Østen, specielt Kina! Vi er fortsat stærke, men vi ligner mere og mere Det Britiske Imperium’s sidste årtier! En ny verdensorden oprinder, og vi er selv skyld i, at vi mister magten og at vi ikke længere sætter dagsordenen! Mange, specielt folk på venstrefløjen, hilser det velkommen, de glemmer… Read more »

Christian Hansen
Christian Hansen
3 months ago

Læser Fjordman ikke aviser, ved han ikke, at økonomierne stormer frem og i flere lande er ved at være overophedede?

Det gælder også Sverige, som I hveranden dag lægger i graven.

Christian Hansen
Christian Hansen
3 months ago
Reply to  steen

Hvis du har det bedre med at tro, at det ikke betyder noget for Sveriges økonomi, at virksomheder og enkelt personer tjener langt flere penge, der selvfølgelig beskattes, så siger vi det. Spørgsmålet er så, hvad Sverige bruger skatterne til? 🙂

Anders Chr.
Anders Chr.
3 months ago
Reply to  steen

Jenseviks stærkt pessimistiske udtalelser gælder fremtiden, og Christian Hansens indlæg handler om nutiden. Du skriver næsten dagligt, at du har blogget i 20 år, og efterhånden spørger jeg mig selv, hvor meget du i det hele taget har set af Sverige, og om dine erfaringer ikke er begrænset til et mindre område i Sydsverige og alt det negative, du kan trævle op på nettet? Jeg er ikke ude på at skønmale Sveriges tragiske situation, jeg glæder mig over Sverigedemokraternes store fremgang, men du tager altså fejl, når du tror, at alt er nød og elendighed. Stockholm er stadig en forrygende… Read more »

Anders Chr.
Anders Chr.
3 months ago
Reply to  Anders Chr.

p.s. Jensevik lyder som en skuffet og deprimeret socialdemokrat, som tidlilgere nærede en tyrkertro på “systemet” og det offentliges ret til at blande sig i alverdens ting. Nu har han set bagsiden af det totalitære, der altid var en del af socialdemokratisk tankegang.

Den kollektive hukommelse
Den kollektive hukommelse
3 months ago

I Sverige er det kun totale BNP, der stiger. BNP per capita falder, dvs, at der bliver et mindre stykke kage til alle.

Christian Hansen
Christian Hansen
3 months ago

Det er klart, at med den indvandring på overførselsindkomst kan det kun falde pr. capita, men det betyder ikke, at der ikke er flere penge i samfundet. Der er mange eksempler på, at pensionister af svensk herkomst er kommet sidst i køen, men der er sandelig også mange eksempker på, at det, som I her på stedet kalder “almindelige mennesker”, har fået flere penge til forbrug. Stockholm er stadig et slaraffenland at gå på indkøb i, og hvis man vil dyrke gastronomien. Fet tjener ikke noget godt formål at sortliste alt svensk. Det er simpelthen for billigt og at være… Read more »

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